do you think this will help chris matthews credibility or water under the bridge? >> people who watch his show thought it was a great interview. people who like barack obama enjoyed the interview. i don't think it helped the president. here you have him going to the home team, msnbc, had a bunch of msnbc pun departments over at the white house along withes fox's juan williams. he didn't make much news. you don't make news unless you hit major league pitching and we didn't see much of that. more like sand lot ball. >> more commentary from howard kertz. tune in at 11:00 a.m. get to see howard's interview with the man who broke the nsa scandal, glenn greenwald. howard kurtz great to see you. >> we have an inside look at women inside the rodeo. they will show anna how to ride a bull. what? who put that in. ask me what it's like to get your best night's sleep every night. [announcer] why not talk to someone who's sleeping on the most highly recommended bed in america? ask me about my tempur-pedic. ask me how fast i fall asleep. ask me about staying asleep. [announcer] t